One of the biggest questions I get asked is about alternative payments – but this is a Niteflirt-linked site (meaning I link from my profiles there to this site) and therefore must abide by their rules – that everything (contact, payment, etc.) goes through Niteflirt. Therefore I must tread a bit lightly with the subject of this post, but I think it’ll be obvious to NF that I am abiding by their rules – for even as I discuss other methods, I’m not giving out payment links/etc. – in fact, I’m not even saying that I have other options, just that there’s one that I used to utilize prior to joining Niteflirt.
I hesitate to write this old payment place out by its full name… And I’m not saying that just because of the rules of having a Niteflirt compliant site… I am saying that all you stupid fags and slaves that love that one service so much… the one with the initials P… P… you really need to be looking elsewhere, such as Niteflirt. Perhaps you work with a cashmaster that’s not on NF and loves that other service… but if he at all self-promotes online as I do; if you at all leave notes “tribute for you Master,” etc.; if you like to send multiple tributes over the course of a session – any of this leads to the risk of him being banned, and his accounts frozen for six months. Any cash that’s still in there would be unusable until much later.
I have heard of one guy not on NF who has multiple accounts open using fake names/etc., but P.. P… has upped its game in what it requires for verification in order to withdraw cash and so that’s not a viable option for many. I had thought myself lucky though that I had an old account open, so that when my new account was banned… I still had one account I could use. I just had to be much more careful with it. (on a funny note, the reasoning for the first one said they don’t allow their service to be used by “financial dommes” – so I didn’t think they’d really looked at things that closely.
The second time though, I was careful with what subs said and did with the account. I never allowed more than two payments be sent in one session. I didn’t mention the site on a website I had that wasn’t linked to NF. However, I did mention the e-mail to use with other payment options – and P.. P.. had found the mention of this e-mail on a site they had already become familiar with from when they banned the first one, and though there was absolutely no way for them to know just how I had used their service, the linking of that e-mail to such a site was enough for them to ban the second one.
I could list you a slew of other alternatives … a few US only, but some worldwide … that I’ve never had issues with, though I both can’t due to NF terms and due to own being afraid that these other sites might follow in P…P…’s footsteps. And they may have their reasons, no matter how frustrating it is. Perhaps too many fag losers balked about how much they got raped, or overdid it on credit cards past limits, and the site balked at chargeback fees and the like. But it’s not just them either – it’s the credit cards they work with, and that includes not just financial domination, but erotic hypnosis.
You see, even other fetish sites don’t allows allow hypnosis talk if they take credit card payments because though you can find all sorts of books & CDs about hypnosis on retail sites/etc., when it comes to the sexual it is considered a very dirty word. The reason has to do with the idea of a person being taken advantage of while not fully coherent and not able to give true consent. While I do get this sentiment, as any form of rape shouldn’t be condoned by credit card companies, it goes a bit too far to not allow erotic hypnosis. Things like my files are things people CHOOSE to listen to. Sometimes we include fantasy stuff that’s not mainstream, with the use of “cashrape” often used in financial domination, but everyone is fully aware of what’s going on. The erotic files are mainly a way for people to get off, and yet a site can talk about cashmasters, wallet rape, faggots, etc. and be allowed to say all that by the credit cards – yet not have hypnosis. One site banned me altogether while another allowed me to stay, but all references to hypnosis had to be removed.
And so then sometimes a sub comes and asks, “Can I pay this way?” and they think I’m being a dick for saying NO. Or don’t get why I’m getting upset when I’ve tried explaining this at least five other times to them, and they still wish to do it. But guess what? You are the dick if you can’t be flexible enough to find a different service that I do accept, which on here is only NF. Afraid of your wife seeing the statement? Well, here’s an idea… get a pre-paid card. If using that certain service is because you like the secrecy, then there are ways to do it with NF too … and in fact, you stay more anonymous on NF than you do on the others. And in terms of visiting the Niteflirt site, you can always delete your browsing history, cookies, etc. and also most browsers have incognito window options these days.
And if you then go on about how you love P…P… to an experienced Cashmaster who’s had his share of drama with that company just as I have, you’re going to either encounter a guy that just wants as much money now regardless of how he gets it, hoping for his best… or someone that’s in it for the long haul that wants to abide by the rules, even if it means turning down some subs along the way. And I’m in this for the long haul, hoping to make many more files this year and for many years to come. And really… YOU ARE INFERIOR. It shouldn’t matter at all what you prefer. And what you prefer should NEVER come before the livelihood of a Master. So even if there were to be a Cashmaster out there who does have a P…P… he uses for a separate legit business, you should NOT be offended when he says you can’t use that for him, or gives you restrictions on how much you can use it. If you don’t want the restrictions, then GO TO NITEFLIRT! Seriously!
Now, NF does take out more fees on my end, but having looked into multiple options of where to host my erotic hypnosis, other options either also wouldn’t allow it (some I could try at the risk of getting banned, then starting over AGAIN); while other options were quite spendy as it’d only be allowed in a high-risk category… which for big producers with the money for that, great; but as a one-man start-up doing his own thing, it wasn’t viable. Some of the shopping cart options also required more programming knowledge than I had, and hiring someone was again not an option for me at this point.
Niteflirt then, despite it’s fees, has given me something that the other options couldn’t provide.
1) Minimal Set-Up Costs – really just my time to make content and such, and a little bit of advertising.
2) Ability to freely advertise Erotic Hypnosis – something I can’t even do on some other fetish sites … and as you know, it’s my specialty.
3) Ease of use – it’s not too hard to copy html from Niteflirt and paste on one’s website for a payment button.
4) More peace of mind that I won’t get caught for doing financial domination, such as if a sub wants to send multiple tributes during a session.
Now, I do still have to be careful, as Niteflirt also can ban people that break their protocols. Usually they give their warnings first. I was hired to do a custom file for a sexual act and edited a version down to sell, and though it was an innocent mistake, I forgot to double check the NF terms. It just didn’t occur to me that it was an act they’d have a problem with. That’s why I was struggling the other day when I asked for humiliation ideas… some of the best ideas involve things that I can’t really mention on NF, so then I was hoping for some creative alternatives. It’s also why on some things they did allow, I have been very clear on the content… for example I am clear that any pup play files are about ADULT HUMAN ROLEPLAY and nothing more than that. And there are certain things I’d like to see, such as certain changes to the feedback policy and some banner ads aimed at gay/bi customers.
In general though, I am grateful that Niteflirt has allowed me a place to host my files and given me the ability to get payments from ATMs, poppers fags, losers and more in exchange for my services. I couldn’t do this without them which is why I do strongly hope that if I ever mess up, that they work with me on simply making clear what I need to do better. I do hope this post hasn’t talked too much about competition – again, I’m not giving out any links, e-mails, or anything like that. Just spelling out my experiences that led to Niteflirt, and why I am very happy that a site such as Niteflirt does exist as I make more fetish hypnosis files in the very future.
The benefits of being on Niteflirt far outweigh any negatives, and I think a smart sub will find that it’s a good alternative for them to enjoy a wider variety of payment options and fun as well.